Tuesday, August 05, 2008

THE OBAMA TIMELINE SHOWS HIS KENYAN BIRTH and use of half-sister's Birth Certificate to fabricate a false one


"Regarding the rest of your post, I'll refrain from comment, except to say that I haven't seen anything credible to support the theory that Obama was born in Kenya -- nor do I see any logic in the theory, given the history of that period and the financial situation of the main characters -- so I won't be joining in a nationwide search for records."


Thank you for the research assistance link.

I have done this exercise before but it may be helpful to have it come up on this thread more than once.

The opposition is out there scrubbing sources as fast as they are disclosed here.

However also, there is a vast array of citations on this thread to support my description of the facts.

There were a number of copies of a news report, the last ones to be scrubbed were in African periodicals which I do not read because I don't have the language, of an interview with a couple of Christian missionaries who were getting on a BOAC flight in Africa in July 1961 at the same time as a very pregnant white woman who could reasonably be identified as Stanley Ann (although I do not believe they identified her by name) which pregnant white woman was denied boarding because of her condition and airline policy.

There is a picture of Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. in the departure area of the old Honolulu Airport with Christmas decorations in place which Obama identifies as a wedding picture.

It is a reasonable inference that picture was taken sometime around late December early January 1960-1961.

In her divorce papers, Stanley Ann alleges that they were married on February 2, 1961.

Obama Sr. was already married to another woman.

Although that marriage would not be a defect rendering a second marriage to Stanley Ann void under US Law, it would have constituted a technical defect in the marriage (voidable) as well as a crime under US law at the time.

Marriage in Kenya would have been legal and in accord with conventional standards--many Kenyans have multiple wives. It is not unreasonable to speculate that Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. were leaving the Honolulu Airport to fly to Kenya to be married.

And following the marriage, she did not return to school for winter semester in 1961; he probably did.

Stanley Ann's next appearance in the record is on Mercer Island in August of 1961 accompanied by baby Obama. It is not unreasonable to believe that she remained in Kenya after the marriage with his family where she was supported.

Additional news reports which have been scrubbed have early stories reporting interviews with Sarah (the woman he calls "grandmother" who is not) and two of his half siblings, the three of whom claimed to have been present at his birth in Kenya.

A Wayne Madsen update asserts that a record of his birth in Kenya was found in Mombasa.

Susan Blake was one of Stanley Ann's classmates and friends at Mercer Island High School. Mercer Island is a suburb of Seattle.

An interview with Ms. Blake is still available in Video form in which she says that Stanley Ann visited her on Mercer Island in August of 1961 at a time when Stanley Ann had not yet learned to change diapers.

The visit was a stop over on a trip from some undisclosed location. Ostensibly, the trip was on the way to Boston to see Obama Sr. who was in school at Harvard.

In fact, Obama Sr. was not in Boston nor was he at Harvard until August 1962 -- the timing is wrong and Stanley Ann wasn't going Boston.

Susan says the visit was in later August which would not be fatal to this time line but is inconsistent with the fact that Stanley Ann had not yet learned to change diapers.

The commercial connection between Kenya and the Western US is found in BOAC schedules for July and August of 1961 which are posted on this thread -- through Glaskow to Vancouver BC.

From personal experience, I know that passengers destined in the Western US from British Africa went from Vancouver to Seattle, usually by surface transportation, to continue their journey in the US in this period.

It is not an unreasonable thesis that what happened was that they went to Kenya, got married; her parents had kicked her out so she stayed in Kenya; got stuck because she was too pregnant to get on the airplane; Obama was born there; she immediately got on an airplane; on Mercer Island in August, 1961; on to Honolulu where she files some form of notice of birth.

What evidence is contrary?

A digital display purporting to be a copy of a birth certificate which is a demonstrated fake -- it is a clear fraud.

Other than a proform newspaper Vital Statistics announcement not supported by any extrinsic evidence, there is no factual support for the proposition that Obama was born in Honolulu.

Against this backdrop, instead of a credible response from the candidate and the campaign, we have not only a stonewall -- we have an aggressive effort to scrub the record and intimidate anyone from successfully organizing an investigative effort into the fact.

This is a critical issue. He isn't eligible to hold the office of President if he was born in Kenya.

If he in fact has an answer, he lays it out immediately--if he loses this argument, he is out.

He is betting that no one can effectively ask the question because if anyone does, he doesn't have an answer.

No real doubt in my mind. I have seen this play out many times in real life over many years in the law business.

Obama was born in Kenya.

(Hat tip LucyT)


Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document.

Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.

Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim. The dramatic claim comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darlin blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's.

However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery.

(He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)

According to Texas Darlin, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect.

He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)"

In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.

The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents what supporters of this analysis claim is a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly.

Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features - compared to genuine specimens.

Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement.

This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website.

The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery. The stakes couldn't be higher.

Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada.

The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate.

Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.

As strident as the claims are with respect to the source of the purported Obama COLB, and despite the claimed ability to replicate Techdude's work, not all experts are convinced.

Veteran forensic analyst Joseph Cannon expresses frustration with what he considers Techdude's vague instructions for "resurrecting" the artifacts that allegedly spell Maya's name.

AJ Strata, who has been an extreme skeptic with respect to the fake certificate claims, believes this latest analysis is a "joke" from a "cult," proof that "the inmates have taken over the asylum."

Indeed, there are still too many unanswered questions to reach a reliable assessment about the veracity of Techdude's claims for the hidden name. Much appears dependent on his ability to lay out replicable instructions and demonstrate graphics which show the hidden name appearing.

He promises a full report in coming days. Until then, the jury is still out. Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document could have been produced for an Indonesian-born girl.

There do appear to be circumstances which would enable a foreign born child to get a US birth certificate, including a consular report of an overseas birth by an American citizen, or an adoption. Those factors and circumstances, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.

Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama.

But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.


Findalis said...

It wouldn't be a Kenyan birth certificate. Kenya was a British colony at the time and it would be a British birth certificate. Anybody track that down yet?

Toddy said...

Excuse me but this is easier to prove than that.

Do an Information Practices Act request on the Certificat of LIve Birth itself from the Secretary of State of Hawaii. The Governor there is a personal friend of Sarah Palin's as well, so she can help assure the integrity of the search by the Secretary, basically make sure it's more than double verified.

In fact this may be a national security issue since it is a direct assault on the rules of the constitution.

The point is that if no record if found then you know he wasn't born in Hawaii, that's all you're trying to prove right? Would make the next Certificate of Live Birth in line authentic unless a certified one can be produced from the Secretary of State under seal.

Note too that at that time social security numbers were not issued so there is no privacy issue since Mr. Obama is a public figure running for public office and this is due diligence in protection of the United States Constitution.

Itumpi Hafren said...

The BIG LAUGH about Obama is that if you elect him as POTUS you will elect a potential BRIT to rule over you as President. As the son of a British man he is entitled to British nationality and can claim that nationality any time. Bye, bye 1776 and all that - back under British rule!

It does not matter where he was born or whether he holds another nationality, as the child of a British man at that time he could claim British nationality born anywhere in the world - even if he were born in Washington DC or in Chestnut St Philadelphia on the steps of Independence Hall!

So, watch your step, guys, or we Brits could be in charge AGAIN!!!

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