BIRTH CERTIFICATE TRIAL LATEST POSTS (RAW INFO) AND LATER ADD-ONS

Foreword: In his speech to schoolchldren today, a perhaps rattled Obama made a clear Freudian slip? "My mother couldn’t afford to send me to the school where all the AMERICAN kids went". Once an Indonesian, always an Indonesian? If he thought of himself as an AMERICAN, he would have said: WHERE ALL THE OTHER AMERICAN KIDS WENT. Here is a compilation of events today in Judge Carter's Courtroom(s) - he used both his usual 9C and 9D. As a fly on the wall here are some sidebar views of peripherals: People were lined up from quite early in the morning in a line which ended up sending about 150 visitors upstairs to the 9th floor to view proceedings. By 8 am they were let in but discovered they would not fit into Judge Carter's usual 9C courtroom and he decided to also use a larger courtroom 9D as well as his own. He called for a two hour recess to move his staff and court personnel to the other room which had better equipment to send audio and video to the original room. With time on their hands some of them discovered the quite decent cafeteria on the third floor and some had barely obtained their order when a flustered lady entered and announced proceedings would start in about ten minutes. One cafeteria customer, thinking in hour time frames, had just at down with his egg and bacon sandwich (they make good ones) prepared to enjoy his coffee chaser but ended up gobbling it up with gulps and coffee. Back upstairs he stood in line for another our till the courtroom was opened. To confused people who did not immediately figure out Judge Carter was finishing off other cases and what went on had nothing to do with Orly Taitz. While waiting to get inside, the long line noticed Orly arrive and applauded her all the way to the courtroom entrance. Misinformed by someone about cameras being allowed inside the courthouse, one of the visitors had to use public phones while others were allowed to use their phones outside the courtroom but not discuss the case or rulings during their calls. During the proceedings, magistrate judge Nakazato, wo had given Orly a very difficult time, recused himself from further involvement. Despite efforts by Judge Carter to have Gary Kreep, a portly grey haired attorney for two previously banned plaintiffs go outside with Orly to try to resolve differences about representation, neither attorney agreed to subordinate their clients to the other and act as second chair. Kreep refused to listen to the urgings of his own client Wiley Drake to allow Orly to have the first chair for all of them and thus have one cause of action and one list of plaintiffs. Outside the courthouse a group of about 25 people with printed signs asking "Where's the Birth Certificate" seemed irate and there was someone who was conducting interviews, possibly for a documenary and Orly brought over a colored man to talk to him. =============== By Jerome Corsi A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution. If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue. In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had. In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent plaintiffs Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, also were restored to the case. Want to know for certain where Obama was born? Demand the truth by joining the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate! But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. Government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case. The judge did comment that if there are legitimate constitutional questions regarding Obama's eligibility, they need to be addressed and resolved. Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery. If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later. The case would be the first time, according to Kreep, that the actual merits of the dispute will have been heard in open court. A multitude of such disputes have been rejected out of hand by various state and federal courts. Even the U.S. Supreme Court repeatedly has rejected urgent appeals to hear the evidence. The suit alleges Obama is actually a citizen of Indonesia and "possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the president of the United States of America and the commander-in-chief." (Story continues below) WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time. Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born. Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated over $1 million to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions. WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records. In the U.S. Justice Department's motion to dismiss, attorneys didn't address the concerns directly, but instead focused their efforts on technical procedures, suggesting the matter can't be decided in court and that the dozens of plaintiffs cannot demonstrate they have been injured by having Obama in the Oval Office. See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential eligibility mystery. "It is clear, from the text of the Constitution, and the relevant statutory law implementing the Constitution's textual commitments, that challenges to the qualifications of a candidate for president can, in the first instance, be presented to the voting public before the election, and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in the Congress," wrote Assistant U.S. Attorneys Roger West and David DeJute. "Therefore, challenges such as those purportedly raised in this case are committed, under the Constitution, to the electors, and to the Legislative branch." President Obama's defenders also said they would file a motion seeking to block any discovery of evidence at this point. Kreep said said his addition to the case probably will mean additional arguments over the president's eligibility. Among the long list of plaintiffs are former ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes and longshot vice-presidential candidate Gail Lightfoot, both of whom ran in 2008. Justice officials say because neither had a mathematical chance at winning, they were not directly harmed by the election of Obama.

MAY HE BE ESCORTED FROM THE PEOPLES’ HOUSE IN HANDCUFFS BEFORE TOO MUCH LONGER! http://bubbasfrontporch.blogspot.com/2009/09/keyes-vs-obama-trial-date-set.html Tuesday, September 8, 2009 Keyes vs. Obama trial date set

Howdy folks!Despite the U.S. Justice Department urging the Judge to throw out the case via a motion filed last Friday, Keyes vs. Obama is proceeding through U.S. District Court in Santa Anna, CA.

In a hearing held today, U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter set a trial date in the Keyes vs. Obama case for January 26, 2010.

The defense Motion to Dismiss the case will be heard on October 05, 2009. If the case is allowed to proceed, a Discovery hearing will take place on October 05, 2009.

Counsel for the Plaintiffs, Dr. Orly Taitz, included Lucas Smith on the discovery witness list - apparently in the effort to submit to the Court the "Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate" document that Smith has been circulating about the Internet and to prompt forensic examination of the document.So, it looks like the heat continues to rise on The Joker.

And the dramatic, outstanding questions surrounding The Joker's eligibility to serve as POTUS persist.

Outta here...Bubba B.

Posted by Bubba B. Brownbag, IV at 3:12 PM Labels: Eligibility, Fraud, Hussein Obama, The Joker From: Bubba B. Brownbag, IV [mailto:bubba@bubbasfrontporch.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:33 PM

To: 'Netty Wisbaum'Subject: Keyes vs. Obama trial date set http://bubbasfrontporch.blogspot.com/2009/09/keyes-vs-obama-trial-date-set.html Bubba B. http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/keyes-v-obama-count-update/ Keyes v Obama Count Update

Reports from Gary are starting…He is about 25th in line out of approximately 300 people waiting to get into the courtroom. Almost all spectators are anti-Obama. Orly Taitz arrived just a few moments ago and the throng applauded. Lucas Smith is also present. Smith has claimed the Obama birth certificate he has shown on the Internet as real. That remains to be seen. However it is interesting he has joined the proceedings. Steve

8.39 am pst

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When court is in session cell phones and camera’s will be banned so we will experience a news blackout.

This hearing may last from 30 minutes to a couple of hours. Taitz apparently wishes to include Lucas Smith so that an investigation of his proffered document can be be forensically examined and by which means he came by it.

Justice Carter is expected to throw out the last minute attempt Motion to Dismiss submitted by Obama’s counsel late in the afternoon this past Friday. Taitz is also hoping for court approval to depose Sec State Clinton and Sec Defense Gates. Justice Carter may also rule for discovery. This is what we are hoping for, because once discovery is ordered the case is over. Obama would then have to unseal his records and produce.

Steve

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Gary also mentioned there was no visible media turnout for this hearing as in no SatCam Uplink Trucks. The LA Fox Channel was expected to report on this hearing. Perhaps they are awaiting a “courthouse steps” exit interview from the pertinent parties.

Back to you Gary…..

Steve

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Justice Carter noting the packed courtroom and overflow crowd waiting in the hallways has ordered a change to a larger courtroom and has taken a 2 hour recess to accommodate the transfer of officers of the court and spectators. Steve

10.02 am pst 9/8/09

In the meantime read some articles watch our “Burning Down The House” video (rate it I’m curious:)

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As far as crowd demographics the estimated age range is 18 to 80

70% Men 30% Women

age 60+ seems to be the majority. About the same mix as an August Town Hall crowd.

Orly Taitz appeared relaxed– calm cool and collected. More as I receive it………….

Steve

Keyes v Obama Here’s the Latest as of 12.30pm pst

Justice Carter recessed the court at 12.30 pst 9/8/09

Judge Carter's backgrround: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_O._Carter

His rulings in this case:

10/5/09 Defense Motion to Dismiss (mtd) to be heard.

Carter indicated only a very strong compelling reason would move him to dismiss at this point.

He will review the defense’s 9/4/09 MTD.

He wants to hear the case on it’s merits.

Discovery to be ordered 10/5/09 if MTD is thrown out.

1/11/10 Pre Trial Set- procedural for other motions, depositions, scheduling, etc

1/26/10 Trial Date Set- Earliest available date for Justice Carter.

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2009/09/keyes-v-obama-update.html

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