Saturday, June 14, 2008



I saw that someone posted the HRS 338-13 thru 19 statutes regarding this Certification of Live Birth as opposed to an actual Certificate of Birth from the State of Hawaii.

But I found the following on another board and thought I would share:

a) The official seal of the department of health shall be circular in shape, two and one-fourth inchesin diameter. At the curve on the top portion thereshall be the words “DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” and at thecurve on the bottom portion there shall be the words“STATE OF HAWAII.” At the curve on each side portionshall be a star. In the center of the seal shall bethe Caduceus, a winged rod entwined with two serpents,which has long been recognized as a universal symbolof medicine. The Caduceus shall be encircled by anindentation, which shall separate it from the words“DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” and “STATE OF HAWAII.” Forillustrative purposes, a black and white drawing ofthe official seal is attached at the end of thissection as Exhibit “A,” titled “Seal of the Departmentof Health,” and dated November 1, 1988, and made apart of this section.

(b) The official seal of the department ofhealth shall be embossed near the signature of thedirector of health to verify commissions ofappointment of deputy directors and notaries public,certificates, and other formal official documents onwhich the official seal has been customarily used oris appropriate to be used, as the director of healthmay determine on a case-by-case basis.

(c) The seal of the department of health mayalso be reproduced, in either an enlarged or a reducedsize, on official stationery, reports, certificates,equipment, supplies, uniform insignia, and otherobjects and items to be used or produced by thedepartment of health, but the reproduction and use ofthe seal shall always be subject to the exclusivecontrol of the director of health.[Eff 2/14/2005 ] (Auth: HRS §&sect321-9, 91-2) (Imp:

This “DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” stamp or embossed seal is missing.

Some posters claiming to have one of these documents state that the stamp is on the back. That’s nice.

This is security or safety paper for government use documents. You have all noticed that the backwards date stamp “Jun 6 2007” has bled through from the back - one of the security features.

A stamped Health Dept. seal certification, pen signature, or “I certify that this is a true document...” stamp would bleed through to the front in the same way.

An embossed seal impressed into the paper would show up on any copy or scan as deformities in the paper, the background, or white space leaving a notable if perhaps undecipherable ring.

This is inadequate as a document. You are correct to follow this line. If he has nothing to hide, why the lack of transparency?


Alan note: And why redact the Certificate NUMBER? To hide DIRECT reference/access to the real document? Or hide discovery of deletions or falsifications?

Mr. Obama is not at all above answering to just this type of legitimate question - it DOES matter. He does not need to put it on the web, but he needs to prove his “natural birth” meeting the requirements of law.

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